Lelit Elizabeth V3 Dual Boiler Espresso Machine

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Please try descaling the machine. Before you start remove the water softener, if attached.

As always, please use the diagrams on our web site to determine part numbers which need to be searched for availability on our web site.

Sorry, we are not aware of any as we had to do the reverse. It seems the entire steam valve assembly has to be changed out.

Sorry to hear this. Please backflush with only water several times using our method. There may be too much detergent that built up in the solenoid valve. Please email us a link to a video as well.

Yes, plumbers tape on the outer nut threaded to the boiler. Do NOT remove the inner nut under any circumstance. If you do, you most likely will ruin the PFTE protector.

You may have particle build up in the refill solenoid valve. Best to run a descaler through the machine after removing the water softener.

This is typical of the Elizabeth when the water has corroded the PID sensor, which causes an overheat. The overheat opens the safety valve. The water corrosion can also damage the bleeder valve and the safety valve to remain open. Please scroll down the Elizabeth page Q&A to February 24, 2021 7:08 pm and you will see our advice.

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Any of the Lelit Tampers will work great They have a more precise fit for the portafilter. The machine comes with a water softener, but you may want to pick up an extra one (or two) just in case we run out of stock. We have a package deal that has these and other recommended items at a discount when you purchase along with the Elizabeth.

Yes, it does.

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We put a ruler up next to an Elizabeth. It looks to be 15 1/16".

If it is too close to fit, we recommend finding a smaller machine. The reason is you need some space above the machine for the heat from both boilers to dissipate.

We suggest removing the water softener, adding a descaler like Urnex Dezcal into the reservoir diluted with water, and then running it through ONLY the grouphead. Use the backflush disc like you would backflush, and see if the gauge moves.

We do not recommend descaling any espresso machine any more. We recommend using OEM parts for this model.

We have already advised to not use any formulated waters with any espresso machines we sell. Unfortunately, we have too many customers with issues when using formulated waters. We are unsure if it the formulations or the water is not distilled. We just know when customers call with issues, the first question we ask is the water being used. We suggest to always use the softeners to minimize issues from the water. Unfortunately, we do not have a suggestion for the best water to use as we have not found one.

We did get some MC747 in recently, but they sell out quickly.

Please check our web site for an assortment of cleaners, brushes, and so forth. Many of them can be compatible with your machine. We would like to make single recommendations, but with current supply chain issues, we have to offer a variety.

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Yes, they both fit. The 0.55mm makes it a more secure fit than a standard 58mm tamper.

Test without the softener in the tank. Descale through the grouphead and blind in place.

Please do not use a dishwasher. Please use liquid dish wash detergent with a sponge to clean the removable components as well the reservoir. Then , you should be good to go.

Although we appreciate their video and your question, we are more of the belief of prevention and less descaling as descaling can start to eat away at metals and orings. Hence, prevention is the best key. Otherwise, we would recommend white vinegar which Lelit does not like. Other formulations can be harsh.

Please go through the programming on the LCC.

Sorry, we will need to ask Lelit. Priority is usually given to the coffee boiler, so this may be where the impact is.

We are sorry that we still do not have stock. Unfortunately, there are supply chain challenges.

Usually 58.0 to 58.5 works out well.

Unfortunately, yes, 50Hz has affected the electronics on 110 volt 60 Hz machines. We have found the electronics will degrade over a few years.

You can change the OPV. However, since Lelit uses a sealant, you may damage the screw on the OPV for which no manufacturer will cover damage. Hence, we believe you should use the grind fineness to control your brew pressure.

Spraying from the spout means the beans needed degassing. If the spray is coming between the portafilter and grouphead, then the the grind may be too fine or the gasket (if older than 12 months) needs to be replaced.

Sorry, we are not aware of any at this time. Unfortunately, we are in the midst of busy season to have time to research.

It is not just changing the plug and cord. The motor, pumps, heating elements, solenoid valves and possible other electrical components need to be replaced.  Sorry, we are unable to advise for or against using a European plug with an adapter in the USA.

Unfortunately, this is a difficult machine to drain. Draining the coffee boiler risks damaging the heating element.

On the steam side, just open the steam valve and allow water to evaporate. Do not store in freezing temperatures.

We suggest not purchasing any espresso machine that has a no-burn or a cool touch type of steam wand.

Any Lelit portafilter that states 58mm would best fit. Aftermarket ones are available but sometimes do not have a good fitment.

We ave mentioned this in the past to Lelit. This is considered normal as this is not a compression valve.

Since we do not see your purchase from us, we suggest you contact your vendor for assistance to adjust the OPV. As for temperature, this is normal as there is an overshoot on the temperature.

Unfortunately, we do not have a perfect solution. It may be a good idea to purchase bottled water low in calcium, magnesium and chlorides. However, some mineral content is needed to make the machine function properly, especially the water refill of the boiler.

We updated the description with what the manufacturer provided us:

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This can occur when the knob is over-tightened. Please pull out knob and inspect inside for any damage. Now, it depends upon if tightened closed or open, and a crescent wrench will be needed to turn the stem in the opposite direction. It will open. Remember to close the knob enough to stop the steam, not always until the knob stops. Overestimating causes the gaskets to wear faster.

Sorry to read this. The PID sensor on the steam boiler will need to be cleaned. We have only seen this on a few Elizabeths, and more on the mara X. The PID sensor needs to be cleaned with a wire brush. Please read the removal from the Mara X page https://www.1st-line.com/technical-support/lelit-technical-support-page/overheating-lelit-mara-pid/

On top of the steam boiler there may be 1 or 2 safety thermostats. Before removing the two or three screws on the back, please make sure the unit is cooled and unplugged from the wall outlet. The safety thermostat will have the button click when pushed in. This means the unit overheated. Overheat situations come from the PID sensor being fouled up from limescale or  oxidation.

Sorry, very popular espresso machines that crush the competition sell out super fast.

This is usually an overheat issue caused by water.

The PID sensor can develop a film created by the water which creates an overheat in the steam boiler which forces the safety valve to open.

Before proceeding with a self-repair, the machine should be cold and unplugged from a wall outlet. As long as no one 'fussed' with the hidden programing of the PID, the following can be performed. The top cover needs to be removed, usually 2 star key screws need to be removed and then the top panel lifts up.

The PID sensor (similar) may need to be cleaned with a wire brush. It is the double red wire on the steam boiler in the rear left of the machine when facing front. It can be difficult to remove. The red wire needs to be disconnected at the black connector. Twisting this double red wire will render the PID sensor to not heat at all.

After cleaning, test the machine. If it gurgles, the safety valve may need to be cleaned. It is the horizontal fitting that usually says 5.5 bar on it. If not resolved, then it should be replaced.

Typically, this kind of stuff happens when water gets inside and goes away after it dries up. If it still continues, please email us for tech support.

This machine only needs 15 amps as it switches voltage from one boiler to the other and vice versa. Priority is given to the coffee boiler.

Currently, we are hoping for around mid-February. Please make sure your email is added to the waiting list to be notified.

Sorry or the delay as our system lost a bunch of these requests and we were able to find them.

Steam pre-infusion is more like old school lever action pre-infusion which Jim really prefers for fresh, but not so freshly roasted espresso blends (2-3 weeks after roast). He likes Bloom when the coffee is very close to the end of the de-gassing period (5-10 days after roasting) after freshly roasting the beans. This is his personal preference.

If you are using the standard short spout portafilter, the height clearance is ~4 5/16".  If you are using the drip tray stand, the height clearance is ~ 3 5/16".

If you are using the coffee slide portafilter, the height clearance is ~4 1/16". If you are using the drip tray stand, the height clearance is ~ 3 1/16".

If you are using distilled, purified water or distilled water, the boiler can be overfilled. This is why water comes out.

On the opposite end, the boiler can also be overfilled because of limescale on the refill probe.

Lastly, remove the steam tip and check inside. There may be a blockage.

Coarsen your grind and the brew pressure gauge will adjust. The gauge does not show the pump pressure. It shows the resistance created in your filter basket.

Sorry for the delay. Yes, the steam boiler has a reset inside. Please unplug unit and press the tab. Your machine may have 2 safety thermostats on the boiler.

This portafilter fits into the Elizabeth grouphead. Unfortunately, Lelit like many maufacturers will make changes using the same code number without any notification to us. Since we do not inspect every item of every shipment that comes in, changes will not always be recorded. If we had to inspect every part on every shipment, costs would go up.

So, our information is as of the time our responses are made.

As of this writing, the Lelit booklet states 18-21 grams. Based on experience, this basket may yield up to 22 grams - basically those coffees with a higher density.

Handle is detachable, but will require pliers while damaging during removal.

Sorry, the new units are NOT even here yet and we just received information on the new features. If an upgrade is available, we will post on our web site in the future. Unfortunately, we are not given a time line.

The V3 upgrades or differences are shown in the description of the espresso machine page.

Please always refer to the Lelit diagrams on our website. Search the diagrams for the part number(s), then search those part numbers on our web site for availability and pricing.

Hi Sean, some questions were previously answered by a current user/owner of the Lelit Elizabeth. The lighted gauge is full black with white and green numbering and bar.

Sorry, for hot selling models, Lelit has opted out at this time of writing of any coupons or discounts for the Lelit Elizabeth espresso machine.

We are unsure what you mean, as there is only one pressure gauge for the brew pressure. How can it stop functioning, and the claim that the brew pressure is still fine?

If the gauge is stuck, then it maybe fouled up with lime scale. If it is not getting high enough, then it is the result of your grind fineness, amount of coffee in the basket, and/or the tamping presure.

Sorry, we are currently out of stock on the Elizabeth bottomless for which you can sign up for a back in stock notification.

As for IMS, we are sorry, we are unsure which ones will work.

Last we checked, the coffee bolelr heats up first, then the temperature will blink on and off while the steam boiler is warming up. This is so the barista knows the steam is not ready.

Hopefully, never. It is best to use the Lelit water softener. By treating the water with the Lelit water softener, descaling is avoided. Thus, damage from descaling is avoided. Descaling should only be performed if there is an issue.

Hi Keith, sorry for the delay and sorry this has happened. There have been three instances where the breaks inside we believe breaks in transport. After a few days of use, the button pushes in. One or two or both brackets need to be replaced. It is fairly easy to do once the top cover is removed.

Thanks for the inquiry. In the almost 2 years we have been selling the Lelit Elizabeth, we have experienced 3 issues with the plastic holding bracket inside. Considering the number of machines we have sold, this issue is much less than 1% of the machines sold. in fact, almost zero percent. If the issue was greater than 5%, then we would advise the manufacturer to put the issue on the improvement list. If the issue increases to 10-20% of machines sold, then the machine goes on a probation list. If the issues goes over 20% of defects, then we tend to drop the machine or grinder.

The button holding bracket is made of plastic for  main reasons. First, less heat transfer to the switch when the stainless body can get hot. Second, there is less chance of electrical shock if there was a short in the machine.

We will email you for more information to resolve the issue.

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When you first start the machine, it will go through a fill cycle, which takes approximately 40 seconds (please see page 13 of the manual).  During this (1) time, it is best to put a large container under the grouphead.

If it takes longer than this, the other issue could be if you are using distilled, RO, or too purified water.

It is easier to turn. Sorry, replacement newer knobs will not be available until 2nd quarter 2020.

This is the first we heard of this. We will need to ask the manufacturer.

Thanks for the inquiry. We will have these sometime in December.

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We apologize for the long wait.  Here is a link to the part: PLA580V.

Hi Tyler, the Elizabeth is a kick butt machine. There are not too many reviews because they have only been around for about a year. So far, no returns from customers and only one issue where a wire came loose in shipping. This machine rocks. Unfortunately, we do not carry Profitec and we are unable to comment on the line or their machines at this time.

Here are the instructions for descaling per Lelit tech support. Please remove any water softeners or filters from the tank or intake hose. A light descaler is Durgol.

Switch on the machine and wait until the set-point temperature has been reached.
• Place a container of at least 1l capacity under the hot water outlet, press the hot water button to dispense water until it stops.
• Switch off the machine immediately.
• If present, remove the water softener resin filter from the tank and fill the tank with 1l of fresh water and add the descaling solution (Follow the dosages stated on the product package).
• Switch on the machine, will start the filling of the steam boiler with the descaling solution.

• In the setting menu, disabled the “Pre-infusion time” of the button n.1
  • Place a jug under the coffee brewer and press the button 1 to dispense water until the solution in the tank is run out.
  • Remove any splashes on the bodywork with a damp cloth.
  • Switch off the machine and leave the solution to act at least for 30 minutes.   

Rinsing procedure:

• Switch on the machine and wait until the set-point temperature has been reached.
• Remove the water tank, rinse it well and refill it completely with fresh water.

• Disable the timer from the settings if activated.
  • Place a container of at least 1l capacity under the hot water outlet, press the hot water button to dispense water until it stops.

. In the setting menu, disabled the “Brewing time” of the button n.1
• Place a jug under the brew group and dispense water until it automatically stops (99 sec).
• Wait about two minutes to avoid overheating the pump.

• Repeat this operation until at least 3 full fresh water tanks have run out, to ensure that all the descaling residues will be removed.

Yes, we recommend short backflushing.

Sorry, to our knowledge based on the diagrams, there is no o-ring by the portafilter spout. You may need to use Loctite which has to be NSF approved for food use to lock the spout in place.

More stock is on its way. Unfortunately, we do seem to have more back in stock notifications than stock arriving.

Sorry, this part is currently not in inventory as we did not foresee a need for replacements for quite some time. We can special order one for you.

If the steam boiler is turned off, there will be no steam to push coffee boiler water for pre-infusion. However, there is a delay of 8-9 seconds for the pump to get up to ~9 bar of pressure, so there is some form of pre-infusion in this process.

There is a programmed offset on the display. This is a common set point for many doible boiler machines because there is a difference of the water temperature where it is measured at the boiler and what exits the grouphead.

So, this is normal.

You can change it, but if you turn too far one way or the other, any manufacturer can void the warranty. Please adjust your grind fineness to allow less pump pressure.

Purge the steam wand after every use. Wipe the wand with moist terry cloth with no detergents.

Recharge the water treatment cartridge minimum 1-2x/month and replace once a year.

We do not believe there is an issue as there is a hard power switch that can be left on. We know it works for one customer who owns a Lelit Vittoria which is a similar design.

However, we can not guarantee it working on any espresso machines as we have never tried any of these devices.

In addition, if you will be using any other device to power up any espresso machine, we do recommend using a surge suppressor at 1080 joules rating or higher. In the past, owners of many different espresso machines have experienced burned out heating elements in their boilers when we asked if they had timers installed without surge suppressors. As a preliminary caution, we recommend these surge suppressors for any espresso machine using these electronic devices that control power.

We have decided not to publish performance data as we would be held liable for such data. There are too many variables....

a) Even though an outlet may be 110 volts, the actual voltage may be ranging from 108 to 124 volts as provided by the power company in a certain locale, and

b) The room temperature may be different, and

c) the temperature of the milk and fat content may be different (we have seen differences in whole milk), and

d) the steaming or frothing method may impact the time, and

e) Each heating element may be slightly different depending upon the actual ohms of the element, and

f) The type of steaming vessel and its temperature may be different.

All of these parameters can impact the timing of milk frothing. If we published our findings, we would have customers claiming machine defects if they could not replicate our findings. One of competitors used steaming water as a benchmark. They were getting complaints of defects because custoemrs could not replicate. It is unfortunate, but it is so true from what we also experienced in the past.

In the video, there was a small grouphead purge before loading the portafilter to bring in non-heated water into the boiler. There may be a small increase, but it would be negligible unless the pre-infusion time is very long. The only other alternative is to use incoming reservoir water which is pumped from the reservoir and will bring the temperature downwards for the remaining extraction. Which is the less of two evils? So far, of the many units we sold, there have been no complaints about too much heat.

On many double boilers in higher price ranges, the water incoming to the coffee boiler goes through a steam boiler pre-heat (through the steam boilers HX tube). This can also run too hot, or if the steam boiler is off, the thermodynamics of the water temperature changes.

If temperature instability is a concern, the Lelit Bianca would be a better choice for pre-infusion that pumps room temperature water with pressure on the grinds controlled by the paddle on top of the grouphead. The water to the coffee boiler is always room temperature as there is no pre-heat.

Yes, it is heated from the heating element that heats in the water in the boiler sitting over the grouphead.

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We tested the 50890 portafilter on our Lelit Elizabeth showroom model and it does fit.

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The drip tray is removable. The capacity is approximately 60 fl oz.

15 amp is sufficient, 20 amp is better. 20-30 minutes for warm tip with portafilter in grouphead works best.

We recommend prevention over descaling. Simple answer is that this will make the machine last longer. Descale only if there is an issue and we advise.

Sorry, we are unsure as we do not sell VST baskets.

Every espresso blend and each person's taste preference is different. Our recommendation is to experiment and do what you feels works best in your cup's flavor profile. We do suggest leaving he pre-infusion on as programmed.

This is the best fit bottomless for Elizabeth by Lelit. However, at this time we are out of stock.

Sorry, we wanted to wait until the units arrived for this info.

10.75" Depth without portafilter and steam wand directed forward

12" Width

15" Height (but need room for refilling water reservoir)

We will post weights in the next week.

Sorry, it was supposed to be here last week. It is at port, but delays from Customs.

All pre-orders have shipped! Units are now in stock...

The units are already enroute via a container ship. We HOPE in 2 weeks for arrival. There are a lot of uncontrollable factors getting machines imported.

Hopefully they will come in two weeks. They need to pass Customs, FDA, then it takes coordination to get out of port.