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Lelit Grouphead Flow Control Assembly with Paddle and Holding Screw

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Description

Bianca Kit – Flow Control Assembly with Paddle and Holding Screw For Manual Brew Pressure Profiling

Please note that Lelit confirms this item fits the Lelit Mara. However, they can not confirm it fitting E61 groupheads found on other machines. Lelit has confirmed that other machines can have a slightly different E61 grouphead. This item is considered a part, and not an accessory.

It is confirmed this paddle kit will not work on Vibiemme E61 groupheads due to the different structure of the top of their E61.

Please note the following to avoid damage to your grouphead:

From the top of your grouphead, the gicleur can be removed usually with an 8mm socket and socket wrench. Upon installation, needle nose pliers can be used to start the installation of the new gicleur. Otherwise, place a little white masking tape on the inside of the 8mm socket to hold the gicleur in place.

WARNING!!!! Upon installation, only hand tighten the gicleur. If you use a socket wrench, there is a 99% likelihood that the gicleur will break inside the grouphead and can be difficult to remove.

If you have success or not on your E61, please write your review noting your machine manufacturer and model on the following link to make other customers aware: https://www.1st-line.com/buy/lelit-bianca-flow-paddle/

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      1. 0 votes
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        Thanks. Pictures do not do it justice. Since it is real wood, there are slight differences in shade of color.

      2. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin Sorry, we never sold Expobar espresso machines and we are unsure of a good fitment or proper operation.
      3. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin On Lelit machines, we strongly suggest the Lelit gauge. Option 6 and 7 are for other machines.
      4. 0 votes
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        Sorry, there is not.

      5. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin

        Sorry, we are not 100% sure as we discontinued the Vesuvius as soon as the Lelit Bianca espresso machine arrived at 1st-line.

      6. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin

        Sorry, we are unable to confirm as we do not sell the Lucca lines.

      7. 0 votes
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        We suggest not changing the OPV at this time as the pump is newly designed, and we are unsure if increasing the OPV resistance will damage the pump.

        A Not need to adjust the OPV, I installed it on the Mara X and there’s enough pressure and water flow to do profiling and keep the brew head pressure under 10 bars, preferably 9 bars. If I open the valve completely I get 11 bars with a blank basket in the portafilter. I did installed the pre infusion spring that comes with the kit, and removed the drain valve spring and cam from the Mara X bottom section of the brew head, as the Bianca doesn’t have it, and recommended by 1st Line-Equipments.
      8. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin

        Sorry, the spring is not available by itself.

      9. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin We are very sorry, but to our knowledge, Lelit has not revealed these secrets. They have good reason as they want to slow down the competitive information to fast following competitive copycat companies.
      10. 0 votes
        A Yes. Work great on my quick mill Alexia Evo.
        A I bought this kit and applied it to my qm67. It works very well. I'm a little dissatisfied with the operating range of the lever, but it's been changed to allow a much more diverse extraction.
      11. 0 votes
        Q Will it work with a VBM Junior HX? answer now
        Asked by Natan Bandler on May 1, 2020 6:27 pm
        Answered by the admin

        Sorry, the design of the grouphead will interfere with the bottom half of the paddle. Hence, we have not tried it.

      12. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin Sorry, we do not have the Mara X diagram yet. If there is a lower spring, then the cam shaft has a gasket, which should be removed.
      13. 1 vote
        A Hello I have put this conversion on a Lucca M58 V 1.0 and I didn't need to remove any spring just added the valve and changed the glacier nozzle the bolt with a pinhole in it and it all worked as it should. Hope this helped.
        Answered by the admin

        It is a good idea to remove the bottom most spring and cam gasket.

        A Which one is the cam gasket? Do you have a drawing of the Mara X group head showing the location?
        Answered by the admin Sorry, diagrams have not been available yet.
        A I tried it both ways and the only way that it worked was leaving the original drain valve spring in. Do not exchange it. Hope that helped
      14. 1 vote
        Answered by the admin

        The Lelit PLA582W wood kit would give you the wooden valve knobs.

      15. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin

        When this happens, the very most bottom spring and cam shaft need to be removed from the bottom spout.

      16. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin

        As previously states, we can not guarantee this will work on your machine as we do not sell Rocket. We have made a video on how to install.

      17. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin

        All answers are based on the time of writing. Inventory counts do change as we all as specifics over time.

      18. 0 votes
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        It looks like it will work, but the mushroom may need to be changed. At this time, we are out of stock on extra mushrooms.

        A could you please add a link to the (out of stock) mushroom?
        Answered by the admin

        https://www.1st-line.com/buy/grimac-faema-grouphead-mushroom/

        Answered by the admin

        https://www.1st-line.com/buy/grimac-black-o-ring-for-faema-grouphead-mushroom/

        A both mushroom parts you posted show as "in stock." also, does the kit include instructions?
        Answered by the admin

        Please follow instructions on our web site. Every new question needs to be posted as a new question, not as an answer to an existing question.

        Instructions are included at the time of this writing.

         

      19. 0 votes
        Q has this been confirmed to work on a rocket r58? answer now
        Asked by Erick Mangali on March 18, 2020 8:53 pm
        Answered by the admin

        Sorry, it has not been confirmed as we do not sell Rocket.

      20. 0 votes
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        Sorry, we are unable to confirm.

      21. 0 votes
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        Sorry, we are unable confirm for all Izzo machines as they have changed the mushroom over the years.  If your machine has a stainless steel mushroom or one piece mushroom, then a new mushroom will most likely be needed.

        A I wanted to confirm that the upgrade does indeed work with the Alex Duetto II. The Faema E61 g Mushroom does not work with the Alex, as the internal diameter of the mushroom has a diameter that is smaller than the spring of the OEM mushroom. If you want to replace the stock mushroom, Chriscoffee does sell replacements. Otherwise I'm enjoying this upgrade on my Alex Duetto II!
      22. 0 votes
        Q Will this work on VBM Super domobar ? answer now
        Asked by Mark Liao on December 31, 2019 7:40 pm
        Answered by the admin

        Only if the bottom portion of the wood handle is shaved off.

      23. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin The mushroom is an option in the drop down. It is usually needed with an extra o-ring for the ECM Synchronika espresso machine.
      24. 0 votes
        Q I have an original 1963 Faema e61. Will this work on my machine? answer now
        Asked by John Hanna-Barton on November 29, 2019 10:50 pm
        Answered by the admin Sorry, we are unable to confirm a fit. We will venture (guess) to say it will not in this case.
      25. 0 votes
        Q Will it work on a Bezzera E61 group? answer now
        Asked by Christopher Skorton on October 23, 2019 11:02 pm
        Answered by the admin

        Yes, this will work.

      26. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin
        Proven to work on Mara. It does not fit the VBM. It will not work well on ECM machines as the mushroom needs to be changed.
      27. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin

        It has fit for other customers. However, we can never guarantee it.

      28. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin

        We are very sorry to hear about this. Unfortunately, we only have the kits. We will find out from Lelit if can get the needle separately. However, they are closed for the month of August.

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        Q can work with Faema E61? answer now
        Asked by Nelson on July 27, 2019 9:40 am
        Answered by the admin Sorry, as we indicate, we can not guarantee a fit on every E61 grouphead as there are slight differences between manufacturers. For Faema machines, this kit most likely will NOT work on the Legend series.
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        Q Will this work on the Rocket Appartamento? answer now
        Asked by David Hersh on July 23, 2019 12:27 am
        Answered by the admin

        Sorry, we can not guarantee it 100% as we do not carry this machine. It should work, but there could be some nuances like a new mushroom needed.

      31. 0 votes
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        Thanks for the inquiry. Two things... please try to coarsen your grind. The brew gauge is showing the resistance created by the ground espresso coffee in the filter basket. When the grinder is finer than it should be, we see the ramp up pressure higher. Second, lift the lever to the pre-infusion stage to release any excess pressure in the coffee boiler. Either one solution separately or both together can improve your situation.

        The other issue may be if there are gicleurs in the tubes from the coffee boiler to grouphead. The hole may be too large or there may be no gicleurs at all. Lastly, if there is a pre-heat of the incoming water to the coffee boiler by the steam boiler, this may be adding excess pressure in the coffee boiler. We are unsure on this latter point as we do not sell the Profitec line at this time.

        A The Profitec 700 does not have any pre-heating of the incoming water and the only gicleur is the one provided with the Lelit flow kit. I checked it and it is definitely not lose. There are no other gicleurs in the pipes or anywhere else. Something is definitely not right. I certainly hope I didn't throw $325 dollars away.
        A I have to add that the flow I am now getting on the Profitec 700 with the pressure set at 10bars per Lelit and other Bianca users is 10ml/s instead of 6.3ml/s. The only way for me to get 6.3ml/s is with the paddle set in an almost close position(less than .5 inches travel between a flow of 6.3ml/s to fully close 0ml/s. This makes the operation of flow profiling impossible. I am convinced that I got a defective Lelit Flow Control Kit. Maybe the machining of the needle and/or gicleur was wrong or something. I really don't know, but something is definitely wrong. Is there a better way to get technical support than this Q & A form? Thx.
      32. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin

        Some answered on another question. Also, if there is co control at all on flow, even in closed position, this means the installed gicleur may have been in too loose. However, do not over-tighten.

      33. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin Sorry, it will not work under its current form. The lower portion of the paddle is obstructed by the design of the grouphead shape which is more robust, but not round. The only workaround is to chop off the bottom portion of the paddle.
      34. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin

        The gicleur with the Bianca paddle kit has a different size hole, so the new gicleur should be installed.

      35. 0 votes
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        Sorry, we can not confirm yes or no if it will fit perfectly. There are different versions of the E61 grouphead. However, if you are willing to work through the process through trial and error, we are pretty sure it can be done. For instance, a ECM mushroom and gasket may be needed.

      36. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin Per Lelit, no additional parts should be needed.
      37. 0 votes
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        Sorry, at this time, this kit will not fit the Vibiemme due to the shape of the grouphead. However, do not lose hope as there may be a solution some day.

      38. 0 votes
        Q Would I need any of the other mushroom parts for a Vesuvius? answer now
        Asked by dbsutherland77 on May 26, 2019 9:32 pm
        Answered by the admin

        Sorry, we are unable to answer this question at this time as we do not have a Vesuvius to test this on.

      39. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin

        Sorry, we do not have confirmation at this time. If there is a stainless steel mushroom without the separate nut on top of the mushroom, a new mushroom with gasket will be needed.

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        Q Quickmill e61 group head suitable for this kit? answer now
        Asked by Dani on April 18, 2019 7:19 pm
        Answered by the admin

        We are pretty sure it does. However, we will need to have feedback from one of our pre-order customers.

      41. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin

        Sorry, we have not confirmed yet. As soon as we do, we will update this page.

      42. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin We are very sorry that we could not confirm yes or no on this question as we do not sell Rocket at this time.
      43. 0 votes
        Answered by the admin Sorry, it is only available as a complete package with the discounts. We may sell the items separately in the future, but the pricing will be higher for each.

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